4th Street Forum | Program | #1315 — Wisconsin’s Girls: How Well Are They Doing (Part 1)


>>>>FUNDING FOR “FOURTH STREET FORUM” IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY THE HELEN BADER FOUNDATION. WORKING WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS FOR OVER 20 YEARS, TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS THAT HELP INDIVIDUALS AND COMMUNITIES REACH THEIR GREATEST POTENTIAL. MPTV IS PROUD OF OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HELEN BADER FOUNDATION.>>ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR “FOURTH STREET FORUM” HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY THE BRICO FUND.>>THIS WEEK, WE’RE COMING TO YOU FROM THE CAMPUS OF ALVERNO COLLEGE. OUR LOCATION SPONSOR IS THE RESEARCH CENTER FOR WOMEN AND GIRLS. WE ARE PLEASED TO BE GUESTS HERE RECORDING IN FRONT OF FACULTY, STUDENTS, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. FOR THE 2 WEEKS, OUR TOPIC IS WISCONSIN’S GIRLS. HOW WELL ARE THEY DOING?>>HI EVERYONE. THANKS FOR JOINING US HERE ON “FOURTH STREET FORUM” ON THE ROAD. I’M DENISE CALLAWAY, YOUR HOST FOR TODAY. WISCONSIN’S GIRLS, THEY’RE OUR SISTERS, DAUGHTERS, NIECES AND NEIGHBORS, A PRECIOUS RESOURCE WHOSE FUTURE IS TIED TO THE WELL-BEING OF OUR GREAT STATE. A RECENT REPORT BY THE RESEARCH CENTER FOR WOMEN AND GIRLS AT ALVERNO COLLEGE GIVES US A SNAPSHOT INTO WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH WISCONSIN’S GIRLS. MANY ISSUES ARE IMPACTING THEIR LIVES AND WE’LL TAKE A DEEPER LOOK INTO SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND SEE HOW WE CAN WORK TO HELP GIRLS TODAY AS WE DISCOVER HOW WISCONSIN’S GIRLS ARE DOING, AND WHAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO TO HELP. JOINING US IN THE DISCUSSION THIS WEEK ARE OUR GUESTS, RHONDA WARE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ALVERNO COLLEGE RESEARCH CENTER FOR WOMEN AND GIRLS. CHRISTINE LIDBURY, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WISCONSIN WOMEN’S COUNCIL, MADISON, AND DENISHA TATE, CHIEF STRATEGIC OFFICER FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OF GREATER MILWAUKEE. WELCOME TO EACH OF YOU AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE WITH US ON THIS LOVELY CAMPUS AT ALVERNO. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HOSTING US.>>THANK YOU.>>ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FOUND SO FASCINATING IS THAT THIS REPORT JUST HAS SO MUCH INFORMATION IN IT ABOUT WHAT’S HAPPENING TO WISCONSIN’S GIRLS. IN WHAT WAYS, ARE GIRLS DOING BETTER OR WORSE THAN WE SAW IN THE LAST REPORT, AND RHONDA, WE’LL START WITH YOU, PLEASE.>>VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, WELCOME. WE HAVE SEEN SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN PARTICULAR AREAS, INCLUDING SMOKING AND TOBACCO USE AS WELL AS FEWER TEEN BIRTHS. BUT WE’RE ALSO SEEING SOME PERSISTENT, AND I WOULD SAY, TROUBLING PROBLEMS IN THE AREA OF DEPRESSION, BULLYING, AND SOCIAL MEDIA.>>OK. THANK YOU. CHRISTINE, WHAT DO YOU THINK, WHAT DID YOU NOTICE IN TERMS OF WAYS THAT GIRLS MAY BE FARING BETTER, OR WAYS AS RHONDA SAID, WE ST. LOUIS HAVE TROUBLING TRENDS THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON?>>I WAS LOOKING PARTICULARLY AT SOME OF THE EDUCATION DATA, AND IT’S BEEN, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING TO SEE GIRLS DO SO WELL IN SO MANY AREAS, ESPECIALLY IN HUMANITIES KINDS SUBJECTS, READING, HISTORY, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE SEEM REALLY KIND OF STAGNANT THOUGH IN THEIR ABILITY TO KIND OF KEEP MOVING UP WITH SCIENCE AND MATH AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE THEY STILL KIND OF TOP OUT, BECAUSE PROFICIENT, BUT NOT SO MUCH AT THE ADVANCED LEVEL, AND THEY STILL LAG BEHIND BOYS, AND THAT’S BEEN A PERSISTENT PROBLEM REALLY SINCE WE’VE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS REPORT BACK IN 2007.>>AND IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT, WE’RE EVEN SEEING A GREATER DISPARITY WHEN WE’RE LOOKING AT RACE AND WE’RE LOOKING AT AFRICAN-AMERICAN GIRLS AND OUR HISPANIC GIRLS AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT AND INCLUDED IN THE REPORT.>>AND THOSE ARE SOME VERY TROUBLING NUMBERS.>>DENISHA, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, WHAT WERE THINGS THAT GIVE YOU HOPE AND CAUSES CONCERN?>>1 OF THE THINGS THAT SET OUT WAS THE DISPARITY AS IT RELATED TO RACE. THE EDUCATIONAL NEWS SAYS THAT WE’RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT THERE’S DEFENDANT ANILY SO MUCH MORE TO DO, — THERE’S DEFINITELY SO MUCH MORE TO DO AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AREAS SUCH AS DEPRESSION AND OTHER MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, IT’S TROUBLING. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BULLYING AND BEHAVIORS THAT ARE SOMEHOW GLORY TIED IN OUR SOCIETY, IT’S VERY — GLORIFIED IN OUR SOCIETY, IT’S DIFFICULT TO SEE WHAT DIRECTION WE’RE HEADING, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE BEHAVIOR TEAMS TO BE APPROVED, ROLE MODEL BY THE ADULTS AND SO HOW DO WE MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THOSE AREAS IS VERY CONCERNING TO ME.>>THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THIS REPORT, AND IT’S QUITE HELPFUL FOR THOSE OF US WHO CARE ABOUT WHAT’S HAPPENING TO GIRLS IN WISCONSIN AND THAT REALLY SHOULD BE EVERYTHING IN WISCONSIN, IT’S NOT SOMETHING THAT JUST IMPACTS WOMEN. ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT YOU TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT, IS THE WHOLE ISSUE OF DEPRESSION. ONE THIRD OF THE GIRLS RESPONDING TO THIS REPORT, REPORT SYMPTOMS OF DEPRESSION. AND WE’RE TALKING AGAIN ABOUT GIRLS WHO ARE BETWEEN THE AGES OF 10 TO 19. HOW DOES THIS MANIFEST ITSELF IN GIRLS EVERY DAY LIVES TO HAVE SO MANY YOUNG WOMEN WHO ARE REPORTING SIGNS, SYMPTOMS OF DEPRESSION?>>WELL, CERTAINLY, YOU’RE SEEING IT AS FAR AS THE SELF-ESTEEM ISSUES, WHEN YOU’RE THINKING ABOUT DEPRESSION, YOU’RE ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT ARE GIRLS FEELING SAD AND HOPELESS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH I THINK IS SIGNIFICANT, AND CERTAINLY, THAT’S IMPACTING MANY DIFFERENT AREAS OF THEIR LIVES.>>AND LOOKING AT WHAT CAN BE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS, SUCH AS THE LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY THAT GIRLS HAVE NOW. SO DEPENDING ON THE FAMILY –>>WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT, DID DENISHA.>>THE FAMILY DYNAMIC, WHAT ROLE DOES THAT 10, 12-YEAR-OLD GIRL PLAY IN THE HOUSE, ARE THEY TAKING ON ADULT RESPONSIBILITIES BECAUSE THE PARENT IS WORKING, BECAUSE THE PARENT IS OTHERWISE ENGAGED. SO NOW THERE’S A LEVEL OF ADULT RESPONSIBILITY AND WORRY ABOUT HOW WELL OUR FAMILY WILL DO THAT YOU’RE TRYING TO PROCESS AT THE AGE OF 10, 11, OR 12. THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WILL DEFINITELY CONTRIBUTE TO THAT HOPELESSNESS AND THAT FEELING OF, I CAN’T, I SIMPLY CAN’T DO IT.>>CHRISTINE, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING?>>THE WOMEN’S COUNCIL, WE LOOK A LOT AT ECONOMIC STATUS OF WOMEN IN GENERAL AND WE HOOK AT SINGLE MOTHERHOUSE HOLDS AND THE GROWING LEVELS OF POVERTY AND ECONOMIC INSTABILITY, AND YOU WONDER HOW THAT FILTERS DOWN TO A LOT OF GIRLS AND YOU SEE THE IMPACT AND YOU THINK ABOUT CHANGING ROLES FOR GIRLS, PROVIDING THAT CHILD CARE FOR OTHER SIBLINGS OR HAVING A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE HOME.>>SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY INTERESTING, IS REALIZING THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THAT TRULY UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMIC PRESSURE ON THE HOUSEHOLD. WHEN BILLS ARE DUE, IS THERE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE HOUSEHOLD TO MAKE SURE THOSE BILLS ARE PAID, ARE WE BEHIND ON RENT, WILL WE BE EVICTED SOON. FOR A YOUNG PERSON, THAT’S A LOT OF PRESSURE AND IT’S AN AREA WHICH THEY CAN’T IMPACT, BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT OF WORKING AGE.>>AND WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN WISCONSIN, PARTICULARLY IN MILWAUKEE, WHO ARE LIVING IN POVERTY, THESE AREN’T SCENARIOS THAT KIDS MIGHT HAVE TO ADDRESS OR DEAL WITH ON A RARE OCCASION. THESE ARE EVERYDAY CIRCUMSTANCES THAT IMPACT YOUNG WOMEN’S LIVES.>>ABSOLUTELY. IT BECOMES THE NORM. AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, IT’S PART OF THE DISCUSSION, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LIFE SKILLS, IT’S STRESS MANAGEMENT AT 10, AND STRESS MANAGEMENT IS NOT I DIDN’T OF I DIDN’T MAKE THE CHEERLEADING TEAM, IT’S — IT’S, I DIDN’T MAKE THE CHEERLEADING TEAM, IT’S WILL WE HAVE TO MOVE AGAIN AND FORTUNATELY, IT’S A NORM WHEN YOU’RE LIVING IN POVERTY.>>DENISHA TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THEY’RE DOING AT BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. WHAT OTHER THINGS ARE WE DOING TO MAKE SURE OUR YOUNG GIRLS HAVE ACCESS TO SERVICES TO HELP THEM ADDRESS ISSUES OF DEPRESSION?>>WELL, WE’RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE A WONDERFUL PSYCHOLOGY DEPARTMENT HERE, WHERE THEY PROVIDE SERVICES, AND FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND THEY’RE TRAINING THE NEXT GENERATION OF WOMEN LEADERS TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, AND I THINK THAT’S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, WE — THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT WE’RE SEEING, BUT I CHOOSE TO LOOK AT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THERE’S OPPOSITION, BUT THERE’S OPPORTUNITY, SO FROM HAVING CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS, I THINK IT’S EMPOWERING US TO SAY, OK, WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO, AND HERE AT ALVERNO, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW ARE WORKING REALLY HARD SO THEY CAN HELP THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF THE FUTURE.>>IT’S NOT JUST HOW YOUNG GIRLS ARE FEELING THAT CAUSES THEM SOME CONCERNS IN THIS REPORT, IT’S ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THEMSELVES, IN MANY CASES. ONE THING REALLY STRUCK ME, ABOUT 14% OF THE GIRLS WHO RESPONDED TO THIS REPORT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR BEING OVERWEIGHT, BUT NEARLY 60%, 60% REPORT ATTEMPTING TO LOSE WEIGHT. WHAT DOES THAT TELL US ABOUT THE WAY OUR GIRLS SEE THEMSELVES?>>I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY SEE IN THE MEDIA AND HOW — AND YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS FOR ON-LINE TIMES, TELEVISION TIME SPENT, JUST THE CONSTANT IMAGES THAT COME AT YOUNG GIRLS AND THE MESSAGES THAT COME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT’S VALUED, AND WHAT THEIR BODIES SHOULD LOOK LIKE, IT’S — IT PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE, AGAIN, ON VERY YOUNG GIRLS TO BEHAVE AND TO BE A CERTAIN WEIGHT TO THINK THEY HAVE VALUE AND BEAUTY.>>TRUTH BE TOLD, IT’S NOT A YOUNG GIRL’S ISSUE. IT IS A WOMAN’S ISSUE. WE ROLE MODEL FOR THE YOUNGER GIRLS. EVEN WHEN WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM, WE TALK ABOUT OURSELVES. SO IMAGINE A MOM SAYING, I NEED TO LOSE 15 POUNDS AND HER DAUGHTER IS LOOKING AT HER SAYING, MY MOM IS PERFECT. WELL, SHE NEEDS TO LOSE 15, I PROBABLY NEED TO LOSE AT LEAST 10 AND SO THE ROLE MODELING IS A BIG PART OF IT AS WELL.>>I THINK IT’S SO IMPORTANT, FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT DENISHA SAID THEN, WHAT IMAGES ARE WE SUPPORTING IN OUR CULTURE, AND I THINK YOU SEE DIFFERENT CAMPAIGNS FROM DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TO REALLY SHOW WHAT REAL WOMEN LOOK LIKE, WHAT THEIR HAIR LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THEIR BODIES LOOK LIKE AND WHY THAT’S SO IMPORTANT FOR US, BECAUSE WE’RE LOSING GENERATIONS OF GIRLS WHO DON’T FEEL LIKE THEY’RE BEAUTIFUL AND THEY’RE BECOMING WOMEN WHO QUESTION THE SAME, AND SO AGAIN, IT’S AN OPPORTUNITIES FOR US, USING THIS INFORMATION, TO SAY, OK, WHAT CAN WE DO, AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AND THEY’RE BEING DONE.>>OK. SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT, I’M ALWAYS SMILING BECAUSE I CAN’T HELP BUT THINK ABOUT HOW RECENTLY, “SPORTS ILLUSTRATED” HAD ITS BIG SWIM SUIT ISSUE, WHICH IS A TIME, ONE THAT MEN LOOK FORWARD TO, BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE ACCUSTOMED OURSELF IN SOCIETY, MOST WOMEN DO NOT LOOK FORWARD TO THIS, AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW PROUD THEY WERE THAT THEY HAD THEIR FIRST PLUS-SIZED MODEL, SO I SAID, OH, LET ME CLICK ON LINE AND SEE WHAT THIS IS. THE WOMAN WAS A SIZE 12. AND I THOUGHT, I DON’T KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE SEE THAT AS A PLUS SIZE, SO THESE MESSAGES THAT WE SEND ARE INCREDIBLY INTACTFUL ON YOUNG WOMEN.>>WELL, I THINK YOU SEE SOMETIMES TOO NOW THAT A PERFORMANCE ARTIST AND EVEN SOME MODELS WANT TO BE SHOWN ON — ALTERED IN THEIR PHOTOS, SO THEY CAN SAY LOOK, I DO HAVE ACNE OR NOT A FLAT TIME OR I HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT MY LOOKS THAT ARE JUST LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE AND I THINK THAT IS TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO EMPOWER.>>BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE ISSUES, I MEAN, IT SEEMS SOMETIMES INSURMOUNTBLE, SO AGAIN, WE’RE DEALING WITH “SPORTS ILLUSTRATED,” WE’RE DEALING WITH EVERYTHING, AND ALL THESE CHALLENGES, BUT THEN THERE’S THE POWER OF ONE, AND SO THEN I HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO IS TWO AND SO, HOW DO I TALK ABOUT MYSELF, HOW DO I LIVE AND BREATHE IN THIS SPACE, WHAT IS OK AND WHAT IS NOT, AND I THINK IF WE LOOK AT LIKE THAT THERE’S THE BIG SPACE, BUT THAN THERE’S THAT EVERYDAY SPACE. DENISHA AND THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, CHRISTINE IS ALSO A MOTHER OF A BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTER AND THE EXAMPLE THAT SHE SHOWED. THAT’S HOW WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.>>FEBRUARY IS TEEN DATING VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH, THE MONTH THAT QUITE FRANKLY WE SHOULDN’T EVEN HAVE. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THE REPORT TOLD US WAS THAT ONE IN TEN GIRLS WHO WERE DATING REPORT BEING PHYSICALLY ABUSED. WHAT KIND OF VIOLENCE ARE YOUNG WOMEN WHO ARE DATING FAR TOO OFTEN EXPERIENCING.>>YOU KNOW, THEY’RE EXPERIENCING THE PHYSICAL VIOLENCE, AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE, BUT THEY’RE ALSO EXPERIENCING THE VERBAL ABUSE AND THE EMOTIONAL ABUSE, AND WITH MY WORK WITH YOUNG WOMEN, FOR SEVERAL YEARS AROUND THESE ISSUES, WHAT ALWAYS STRUCK ME IS THEY DON’T — THEY DON’T KNOW HOW TO RECOGNIZE THAT VERBAL AND EMOTIONAL ABUSE THAT USUALLY PRECEDES THE PHYSICAL ABUSE AND SO FOR ME, IT’S SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE LOOKING AT PREVENTION EFFORTS AS WELL AS INTERVENTION EFFORTS, TO REALLY COMBAT THESE ISSUES, AND AGAIN, WHEN YOU’RE SAYING ABOUT TEEN DATING VIOLENCE, YOU ALSO HAVE ADULT VIOLENCE, AS WE’VE TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE AT RISK FOR BEING A PERPETRATOR OR A VICTIM, BECAUSE MAYBE THEY’VE GROWN UP IN A HOME WHERE THEY’RE SEEING IT. MAYBE THEIR FRIENDS, THAT’S HOW THEY’RE EXPERIENCING DATE, AND SO, WE NEED TO ATTACK THESE ISSUES ON MANY, MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS.>>AND WE WERE. I KNOW THAT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB HAS DONE GREAT WORK AROUND THERE AND OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, SOJOURNER FAMILY PEACE CENTER, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN ALL LOOK AT TO ADDRESS.>>WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT YOUNG MEN AND OUR YOUNG MEN AND EITHER YOUNG MEN ARE SEEING OR WHAT WE’RE SAYING OR NOT SAYING TO OUR YOUNG MEN, FOR THEM TO KNEEL THAT THIS — FEEL THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR TO ENGAGE IN WITH THE YOUNG WOMEN WHO THEY’RE DATING IN.>>SOME OF IT IS THE NEED TO EDUCATE. WHEN TALKING TO A YOUNG MAN ABOUT THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO RESPOND IN A RELATIONSHIP, IT’S VERY EXCITING WHEN THE LIGHT BULB COMES ON, WHEN YOU SAY, NOW LET’S DISCUSS THIS AGAIN, BUT IMAGINE IT WAS YOUR LITTLE SISTER. NOW THERE’S A DIFFERENT RESPONSE. AND SO TEACHING YOUNG MEN THAT IN A DATING RELATIONSHIP, THAT THAT YOUNG LADY IS SOMEONE’S SISTER, SOMEONE’S DAUGHTER, MOST IMPORTANTLY, SHE’S A HUMAN OF COURSE, AND THEREFORE, THEIR EXPECTATIONS ON HOW WE TREAT EACH OTHER AS HUMAN BEINGS, AND IT’S NOT THE MACHO WAY TO BEHAVE OR THE WAY TO BEHAVE, IT’S HOW WE RESPECT OURSELVES AND HOW WE DEAL WITH REAL EMOTIONS. ANGER HAPPENS. DISAPPOINTMENT HAPPENS. EMBARRASSMENT HAPPENS. BUT RAGE IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND PHYSICALLY ASSAULTING EACH OTHER IS SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY HAS TO BE DEALT WITH AND STYLES IT’S NOT TALKED ABOUT, UNTIL IT’S — SOMETIMES IT’S NOT TALKED ABOUT UNTIL IT’S TOO LATE.>>YOU KNOW, IS THIS ONE ISSUE KIND OF REFERRED TO THIS A LITTLE WHILE AGO, AND THAT IS, THE IMAGING AND MESSAGING THAT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, BOYS AND GIRLS, SEE REPEATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN THROUGH THE REGULAR MEDIA, THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA?>>ABSOLUTELY.>>NO. I WOULD AGREE WITH DENISHA. YOU KNOW, IT’S CERTAINLY A PART OF IT AND I THINK WE TALK ABOUT IT MORE WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT THESE SENSATIONALIZED CASES, SO RAY RICE OR CHRIS BROWN, I THINK IT’S REALLY IMPORTANT EVEN IN THAT SPACE, BATTERY IS A LEADING CAUSE OF INJURY TO WOMEN 15 TO 44 IN THIS COUNTRY, AND ON AVERAGE, THREE TO FOUR WOMEN ARE DYING A DAY IN THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SO GOING BACK TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, DENISHA WAS TALKING ABOUT AND I TOUCHED UPON, IT’S REALLY UPON EDUCATION, IT’S ABOUT LOOKING AT A PREVENTION PIECE TO DEAL WITH THE GREATER ISSUE, AND I JUST FIND SOMETIMES WITH WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE SENSATIONALIZED CASES, THAT’S JUST THEM OR THAT’S JUST — IT’S HAPPENING IN OUR HOMES AND OUR COMMUNITIES. OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING THIS AND THEN AS WE TALK ABOUT STRESS AND DIFFERENT THINGS, SO IT’S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND, BUT AGAIN, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE IT’S INFORMING THE SITUATION, AND HOPEFULLY, IT WILL INSPIRE US TO DO MORE AROUND THESE ISSUES.>>I DO WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT BULLYING. WHICH THIS REPORT SPENDS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME TAKING A LOOK AT AND WHICH IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT IS A KEY ISSUE THAT WE TALK ABOUT A LOT. IN OUR COMMUNITIES. MORE THAN ONE IN FOUR GIRLS PARTICIPATING IN THE REPORT WAS BULLIED. AND IN MANY CASES, GIRLS ARE BEING BULLIED BY OTHER GIRLS. HOW DO WE BEGIN TO HELP OUR YOUNG WOMEN UNDERSTAND THE WAY WE TREAT EACH OTHER AND THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE TO HAVE WHEN THEY’RE BEING BULLIED?>>DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT, CHRISTINE, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THAT A TRY?>>OK.>>WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK, AGAIN, THERE’S MODELING, THERE’S ALSO AS PARENTS, MONITORING HOW WE USE THINGS LIKE TWITTER AND THE INTERNET, AND FACEBOOK AND SNAP CHAT AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.>>ABSOLUTELY.>>DO WE ALSO NEED TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE SOMETIMES AS PARENTS, MAYBE JUST KIND OF WRITE OFF OR ADULTS, WE MAY WRITE OFF AS KIDS BEING –>>EXACTLY. THAT THAT’S NORMAL CHILDHOOD ANTICS. AND SOMETIMES, WE IGNORE THAT A YOUNG PERSON IS HURTING, AND SO HURTING CHILDREN WILL HURT OTHER CHILDREN. AND SO NOT IGNORING THAT FACTOR IS A FIRST STEP FOR PARENTS. OF THAT CHILD THAT HAS BECOME THE BULLY. WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH THAT YOUNG PERSON, THAT THEY WANT TO LASH OUT OR SOMETIMES TAKE THE SPOTLIGHT OFF OF THEMSELVES AND THE OTHER IS DEALING WITH THE BYSTANDER. SO NOT ONLY THE YOUNG PERSON THAT’S BULLYING, BUT THE OTHER ONE THAT IS WITNESSING THIS EXPERIENCE, AND TO KEEP THEMSELVES FROM BEING VICTIM, THEY JOIN IN.>>ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME ABOUT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BULLYING, IS CYBER BULLYING. KIDS WILL SAY THINGS TO EACH OTHER ON LINE THAT THEY WOULD NEVER DREAM AS SAYING TO EACH OTHER FACE-TO-FACE, AND THIS REPORT RIGHT AROUND THAT SAME NUMBER OF GIRLS, ONE IN FOUR REPORTED BEING BULLIED ON LINE. HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT, BECAUSE IN SOME WAYS, IT CAN ALMOST SEEN ANONYMOUS.>>I MEAN, I THINK IN A LOT OF THE SAME WAYS. AGAIN, IT’S ABOUT, I THINK, EDUCATING PEOPLE AND A LOT OF THE CYBER BULLYING IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING WHEN YOUNG PEOPLE ARE AT SCHOOL, SO I THINK THAT CREATES A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THOUGH FOR US TO TALK ABOUT CREATING A CULTURE THAT DOESN’T ACCEPT THIS BEHAVIOR, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT BYSTANDERS, THAT’S THE MOST POWERFUL SPACE TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE, I’M NOT LOOKING AT YOU’RE A VICTIM OR A PERPETRATOR, BUT HOW CAN WE AS A GROUP, AS A CLASS, AS A SCHOOL, AS A COMMUNITIES CENTER CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE ARE ACCEPTED AND VALUED AND I THINK THAT’S THE GREAT SPACE FOR US TO START, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ACT NOW IS DOING THAT, DR. NANCY WHO IS HERE, SHE’S THE DEAN OF OUR SCHOOL OF EDUCATION DOES SOME WORK AROUND THAT POSITIVE CLIMATE PIECE, SO I THINK THAT’S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE CONVERSATION, TO REALLY CHANGE BEHAVIOR.>>AND REALLY LOOKING AT A SOLUTIONS-ORIENTED APPROACH, BECAUSE AT THE SOURCE OF THAT IS CONFLICT. WHAT’S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CONFLICT RESOLUTION SKILL THAT CAN BE USED, INSTEAD OF LASHING OUT TO HURT. HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, THERE IS A DISAGREEMENT, THERE IS A CONFLICT. TEACHING THOSE SKILLS IS ALSO A WAY TO BEGIN ADDRESSING HOW TO MINIMIZE THAT BEHAVIORAL.>>I DO WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME, BEFORE WE WRAP UP THIS FIRST SHOW, TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION. AND CHRISTINE ALLUDED TO THIS A LITTLE BIT. GIRLS ARE MORE LIKELY TO GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND MORE LIKELY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF CLASSES MORE SO THAN BOYS BUT WE SEE GAPS IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE FOR ADVANCED PLACEMENT CLASSES L. WHAT ARE THOSE GAPS AND HOW DO WE BEGIN TO TRY TO FILL THESE IN, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE ARE NOT NEW, THEY’RE CONTINUING ISSUES THAT WE SEE FOR GIRLS.>>WELL, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY GIRLS ARE THE MAJORITY OF STUDENTS AND COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES, THE MAJORITY OF GRADUATES, MORE WOMEN THAN MEN HAVE BACHELOR’S DEGREE OR HIGHER IN WISCONSIN, BUT WE SEE THIS PLACE AROUND SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY, MATH, WHERE WE’RE STILL TRYING TO GET GIRLS SORT OF IN THAT SPACE, AND SOME OF IT, I THINK, MIGHT BE JUST WHAT THEY SEE IN TERMS OF WHAT THOSE FIELDS ARE LIKE, DO THEY THINK THEY CAN DO THAT SORT OF STUFF. YOU KNOW, THERE’S A BIG FALLOFF IN MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR GIRLS WHO JUST DECIDE THEY CAN’T DO MATH ANYMORE.>>IT’S NOT THEY CAN’T DO IT. THEY DECIDE.>>THEY DECIDE. AND SO YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT I THINK TEACHERS ARE REALLY STARTING TO GO ADDRESS THAT MORE. I THINK THAT’S MORE OF A KNOWN DISCUSSION NOW AND I THINK AS GIRLS INCREASINGLY MAYBE WANT THE UPSIDE OF USING SO MUCH TECHNOLOGY, USING COMPUTERS MORE, FEELING COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THEY’RE STARTING TO PLAY THE GAME IN THE WAY BOYS HAVE DONE FOR MANY YEARS AND THAT MAY PULL THEM ALONG IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS AS WELL.>>EXACTLY. GETTING TOWARDS A SOLUTION IS ALLOWING WOMEN THAT ARE IN THESE FIELDS TO GO BEFORE GIRLS, BECAUSE IF I DON’T SEE IT, I DON’T DREAM IT. AND THEREFORE, MY PARADIGM NEEDS TO SHIFT TO KNOW THAT THIS IS POSSIBLE FOR ME. SO I MAY BE GOOD AT BIOLOGY AND RIGHT NOW I’M THINKING ABOUT BEING A BIOLOGY TEACHER, I’M GOOD AT CHEMISTRY, MAYBE I CAN TEACH CHEMISTRY, OR MAYBE I CAN BE A BIOCHEMIST, WITH YOU I’VE NEVER MET ANYONE IN THAT FIELD. THEREFORE, I DON’T EVEN REALIZE THAT THAT’S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME, SO A SOLUTION IS GETTING WOMEN IN THOSE FIELDS BACK IN FRONT OF GIRLS SO THAT THE YOUNG LADIES CAN SEE THEMSELVES AS, MAYBE THAT’S POSSIBLE. AND THEN THEY’LL STOP DECIDING THAT THEY DON’T LIKE MATH.>>I’M GOING TO ASK YOU TO HOLD THAT THOUGHT, BECAUSE WE’VE GOT ANOTHER SHOW TO TAPE AND WE DO WANT TO WRAP UP TODAY’S DISCUSSION AND I REALLY WANT TO DO THAT BY ASKING US TO THINK FORWARD A LITTLE BIT. WHAT DO WE THINK THE NEXT STATUS OF GIRLS REPORT WILL TELL US ABOUT WISCONSIN GIRLS AND HOW THEY’RE DOING IT? DENISHA, WE’LL START WITH YOU PLEASE.>>I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT WOMEN AS A COMMUNITY GET ENGAGED WITH THE RESULTS AND BECOME ACTION ORIENTED, SO WE CAN SEE A CHANGE IN THE GIRLS RESULTS.>>ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CHRISTINE.>>I HOPE WE CONTINUE TO SEE LESS TEEN PREGNANCY, TO SEE THAT TREND CONTINUE TO GO DOWN, I THINK THAT’S A GOOD FLAG THAT, YOU KNOW, GIRLS HAVE MORE HOPE, THAT THEY — THEY ARE PLANNING FOR A LONG-TERM FUTURE AND NOT MAKING DIFFICULT SITUATIONS EARLY ON.>>AND I HOPE WE SEE IMPROVEMENT IN EVERY SINGLE AREA, BECAUSE AS A MOTHER AND A RESIDENT OF THIS STATE, I WANT MY DAUGHTER AND ALL THE OTHER DAUGHTERS TO HAVE A CHANCE TO BECOME THE HIGHEST EXPRESSION OF THEMSELVES.>>WONDERFUL. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE, FOR THE FIRST PART OF OUR TWO-PART DISCUSSION ON THE STATUS OF GIRLS IN WISCONSIN. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHT AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]>>AND ALL OF US WHO WORK ON THE SHOW WOULD ALSO LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR THANKS TO ALVERNO COLLEGE AND THE RESEARCH CENTER FOR WOMEN AND GIRLS FOR HOSTING US TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE]>>YOU’LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE OUR GUESTS AGAIN, WHEN WE JUST CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION ON PART TWO OF WISCONSIN GIRLS, HOW WELL ARE THEY DOING? “FOURTH STREET FORUM” ON THE ROAD WILL BE ON BREAK UNTIL FRIDAY MARCH 20th. TUNE IN THEN FOR PART TWO OF WISCONSIN’S GIRLS, HOW WELL ARE THEY DOING? FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE SHOWS OR TO LEARN ABOUT HOW YOU CAN BE PART OF A STUDIO AUDIENCE, GO TO “FOURTH STREET FORUM” ON THE ROAD AT WWW.MPTV.ORG. I’M DENISE CALLAWAY AND FOR ALL OF US HERE AT “FOURTH STREET FORUM” ON THE ROAD, THANKS FOR BEING WITH US AND FOR BEING PART OF THE DISCUSSION.>>FUNDING FOR “FOURTH STREET FORUM” IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY THE HELEN BADER FOUNDATION. WORKING WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS FOR OVER 20 YEARS TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS THAT HELP INDIVIDUALS AND COMMUNITIES REACH THEIR GREATEST POTENTIAL. MPTV IS PROUD OF OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HELEN BADER FOUNDATION.>>ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR “FOURTH STREET FORUM” HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY THE BRICO FUND.